BeatMaker 3 build-in midi port input not working?

edited July 19 in General

Hi,
Saw a post on AB forums which reminded me that BM3’s midi port doesn’t seem to work & cant choose it as a midi source for a Bank.
Am I missing something or it’s a bug ?

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  • edited July 19

    What exactly are you trying to do, your question makes little sense, Beatmaker once had a MIDI port named Beatmaker visible, this was a bug and was rectified a long long time ago, all the ports in Beatmaker now work perfectly.

    Perhaps trying things may get you moving along better than just reading "Expert" opinion from AB forum, once you try something and it doesn't work, post back and trust me you will get a whole slew of forum users here trying to help you ;)

    Moving this to general, its not a bug.

  • Make BM3 listen to BM3’s build in midi port . There is a visible BeatMaker 3 midi port in BM3 settings and other hosts see that port .

    1. No option for choosing BM3 port in Bank midi input setting , user must enable ‘ALL’ ports .
      I call it a bug , others may call it missing feature .

    2. Not working inside AB3 (BM3 midi input port) . Tested on AUM . Figured it out . IAA midi port ,not working . Fortunately virtual port is working ,but that means no AB3 midi .
      Call this also a bug. But still for others it may be not important....

  • I am unsure what you are talking about, there are plenty of video tutorials showing that MIDI input from other apps works fine (I even posted a few myself)
    MIDI from other apps can be sent
    Globally via focus (Whatever is focused receives all MIDI)
    Per input/per channel/per bank
    Per input/per channel/per pad
    And any combination of the three above.
    This pretty much covers every type of combination of possible MIDI input in to Beatmaker, so no, not a bug.

  • @5pinlink ,
    The port from the screenshot is missing as a choice in Bank midi input section

    Also the IAA midi doesn’t work , only the virtual
    So those connection/routings for example don’t work

    I am talking about connecting a host to BeatMaker 3.

    So 2 bugs so far . Or you can call it as wou wish :)

  • So controlling B3 from a host, like i did in my Cubasis video ?

    For starters, you seem to be trying to get a MIDI output from an external host without that external host even running, or the external hosts MIDI output would be shown in B3s input list.

    Someone else can conment on IAA MIDI, while i know it has been used by many people since B3s release, I personally wouldn't use IAA if you paid me.

    Good luck, i cant help you further.

  • @5pinlink a bit off topic maybe, but do you know why B3 is shown as a midi input? I’m sure there must be a good reason, but I don’t understand it...

  • edited July 20

    A MIDI input in what @denx ?
    Do you mean as a MIDI receiver in Audiobus or that it shows up in inputs in B3 itself ?

    If it is the latter, I have no idea, it was mentioned in earlier builds as a bug when B3 was listed as a MIDI output too.
    The output was removed (Which never actually worked by the way, it was a bug) however the input remained.

    It is possible it is a global input or possibly the start of a new feature or something (Ab3 Receiver ? Input ports just for Omni mode ?? MIDI Feedback ???) because even though people think this input doesn't work, it actually does, but it works in a strange way.
    For example ...
    Enable the Beatmaker 3 input in B3, go to something like Cubasis and send MIDI via that Beatmaker 3 output, now try to assign that MIDI input to a bank or pad in B3 using their respective MIDI input settings, that input isnt available, right ?
    Wrong, put it on 'All' and it will receive the MIDI, even though that input isn't listed lol.

    So with the combination of the rogue MIDI output being removed when input and output were reported as bugs, plus the fact the output never even worked, but as can be seen the input does work, albeit in a strange way, we have to assume it was left there for a reason.

    But to shut up and answer your question, no idea what it is for hahaha.

  • @5pinlink Thanks for putting my mind at ease 🙂

  • edited July 20

    Changing BM3 from Instrument to Generator would fix those issues in other hosts ;)

    Edit: Added a screenshot showing virtual and IAA midi ports

  • There are no issues in other hosts lol

  • Update for the current 3.0.11 version

    Since as I understand there are no plans from fixing BM3 port and use it as an input for other hosts , I will rephrase the bug :

    BM3 is shown as input midi port in other hosts
    An unused midi port named BM3 is shown as input in BM3.
    Fortunately not in Banks ,but in midi preferences.

    New bug:
    Inside AB3 ,there are way too many ,unknown AB3 midi related destinations when loading AU midi plugin in AB3 .
    (I tried using AB3 for AU midi hosting )

  • hello,
    This is not only BM3 virtual midi port, for me any virtual port from any application such as ModStep, apeMatrix, are not receive by BM3.
    can anyone confirm this ?

  • apeMatrix doesn’t have virtual midi port , don’t have Modstep installed .

  • Right for apeMatrix , I made so many test ...
    Should say midiFire and any app with virtual midi

  • edited November 10

    ~~ I noticed on Midiflow that low notes 0-16 don’t pass from Rozeta. Maybe it’s something else going on
    Does midifire have a log to check ? ~~

    Update : it works ,plz ignore this post .

  • MidiFire can log midi datas, but as Beatmaker is not receiving any datas, MidiFire log is irrelevant no?

  • edited November 10

    @jeezs said:
    MidiFire can log midi datas, but as Beatmaker is not receiving any datas, MidiFire log is irrelevant no?

    Sorry , didn’t have much time to update my previous comment. Long story but it works.
    I created to virtual ports ‘A_in’ , ‘B_out’ , in Midiflow . Launched AUM and load rozeta .
    Selected ‘A_in’ as destination in AUM’s midi routing panel from Rozeta .
    Created a route in Midiflow ‘A_ in’ to ‘B_out’ .
    Launched BM3, enabled ‘B_out’ as input (midi from the output).
    Enabled ‘B_out’ in Bank’s midi preferences.
    Works

    If you try to send to BM3 port, only the virtual port works ,not the IAA midi port.
    Depending on the software it might not work .(IAA midi port broken, virtual not seen by all apps)
    Of course you have to enable BM3 port as input inside BM3 preferences and set the Bank to listen to all ports (pita) .

  • @korakios said:
    If you try to send to BM3 port, only the virtual port works ,not the IAA midi port.
    Depending on the software it might not work .(IAA midi port broken, virtual not seen by all apps)

    This has always been the case as far as I remember. IAA and AudioBus midi input has never worked for me, only CoreMidi. I wish this one would get resolved.

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