Anybody know if there is a way to change the tempo (gradually or suddenly) during a track - and keep it set in the DAW - in the same way you can record the changes to a filer effect manually as a track is playing?
I also came here today to ask this question. As someone who experiments with all kinds of music I find it very hard to properly make a Punk or Metal song without tempo changes. Currently I don't believe there are any apps that support this. Well, okay there are a couple but nothing even close to as good as BM2.
I saw someone say to turn up the tempo while recording... That is just silly. lol First of all the tempo is finicky to say the least and secondly that will not work with recorded audio and especially will not work while recording.
I thought the best way to go about this in BM2 would be to add a new parameter to the MIDI control, such as the Track volume works. Then we could automate slow changes or instant changes. I foresee some problems with that as obviously there is no set end cap for max BPM so there might have to be a cap dialogue that allows the user to define min and max BPM and also there is handling what to do if there are two BPM changes in the same part of the song.
Another idea is to allow us to use the draw tool to add a "flag" to the track view area.. Up top where the loop region appears. This might be a good way to do this as you could add extras like a "note" function to add a little note up there like perhaps "Chorus" or "Verse" or "Weird Part"...
Don't forget that tempo changes would require some sort of elastic audio for audio tracks that have been recorded before the tempo change..
Ever fed BM2 midi clock and watch the audio tracks jump around trying to stay in sync?
Dee- what is so strange about that? What other iOS daw allows tempo change?
I you need a tempo change, start a new project and splice them together later.
@dubhausdisco: "Don't forget that tempo changes would require some sort of elastic audio…"
Not necessarily if you are using instruments (drum machine or sampler) or external MIDI. It also works if the audio tracks are already made for the current time during it's own playback.
I have used live, by changing tempo manually and works well.
It would be great to be able to automate the tempo, eg as parameter in the main track, as is done in Live.
If you'll read my post once again, I was talking about audio tracks that you already have recorded. Changing the tempo after you've recorded audio would require an "elastic" audio engine which (if it were a quality algorithm) would stop any current iPad in its tracks... I've used Live and frankly the stretching quality is not all that... I'm all for having a tempo "ruler" where you could have tempo changes of course, but not at the expense of having to upgrade my hardware to do it. oh, and Ryan, this is Beatmaker, not "punk maker" or "metal maker" or "I am genre-less, therefore your software needs to have every feature I may ever need" Beatmaker 2 is rock solid and does what it does very well, rivaling hardware MPC's in speed and ease of use. Lets not ruin a good thing?
I talk about pre-recorded tracks too. I have some background audio tracks, with drums and voices, each on it's BMP. However, I don't mean to make continuous change on the tempo, but only one time at the beginning of each track-tempo zone.
I works well making the change manually, and does not require extra effort on the CPU because there is not audio stretching. Instead of tempo automation, we could think on tempo change points, and would be great for me.
I understand- that's what I was saying with the "tempo ruler" ala ProTools. That would sure make it easy to have a live show right in one project.. Excellent!
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Try that? and if it doesn't work I will try and see if I could figure it out myself a bit later.
I also came here today to ask this question. As someone who experiments with all kinds of music I find it very hard to properly make a Punk or Metal song without tempo changes. Currently I don't believe there are any apps that support this. Well, okay there are a couple but nothing even close to as good as BM2.
I saw someone say to turn up the tempo while recording... That is just silly. lol First of all the tempo is finicky to say the least and secondly that will not work with recorded audio and especially will not work while recording.
I thought the best way to go about this in BM2 would be to add a new parameter to the MIDI control, such as the Track volume works. Then we could automate slow changes or instant changes. I foresee some problems with that as obviously there is no set end cap for max BPM so there might have to be a cap dialogue that allows the user to define min and max BPM and also there is handling what to do if there are two BPM changes in the same part of the song.
Another idea is to allow us to use the draw tool to add a "flag" to the track view area.. Up top where the loop region appears. This might be a good way to do this as you could add extras like a "note" function to add a little note up there like perhaps "Chorus" or "Verse" or "Weird Part"...
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Ever fed BM2 midi clock and watch the audio tracks jump around trying to stay in sync?
Dee- what is so strange about that? What other iOS daw allows tempo change?
I you need a tempo change, start a new project and splice them together later.
I thought it could.
@dubhausdisco: "Don't forget that tempo changes would require some sort of elastic audio…"
Not necessarily if you are using instruments (drum machine or sampler) or external MIDI.
It also works if the audio tracks are already made for the current time during it's own playback.
I have used live, by changing tempo manually and works well.
It would be great to be able to automate the tempo, eg as parameter in the main track, as is done in Live.
I'm all for having a tempo "ruler" where you could have tempo changes of course, but not at the expense of having to upgrade my hardware to do it.
oh, and Ryan, this is Beatmaker, not "punk maker" or "metal maker" or "I am genre-less, therefore your software needs to have every feature I may ever need"
Beatmaker 2 is rock solid and does what it does very well, rivaling hardware MPC's in speed and ease of use. Lets not ruin a good thing?
I works well making the change manually, and does not require extra effort on the CPU because there is not audio stretching.
Instead of tempo automation, we could think on tempo change points, and would be great for me.
That would sure make it easy to have a live show right in one project.. Excellent!