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How do you go about laying down drums in bm2?

DeeJohnsonDeeJohnson
edited May 2013 in Support
Do you usually lay down the drums in one track and then separate them?

or lay down each part individually?

Im just curious as to how you other beatmaker 2 users workflow goes.

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  • GjcyrusGjcyrus
    edited 4:08AM
    I usually find an actual live drum loop from a song I like or from past drum recordings that i played myself, stick that in as a loop, then start layering kicks and snares to complement the drum loop. Maybe the drum loop has a cool "feel" to it but lacks the oomph of a solid kick, so I'll stick in a fat kick, or maybe theres a pretty decent kick already there, then I'll look for a more subtle kick to blend in with the recorded kick. Purely electronic beats sound kinda boring to me now as most machines and apps can generate them in a heartbeat and actual live drum loops typically lack a fat kick to make my gut move so I like blending the two to get the best of both worlds. at minimum having some unique sample with some weird timing in it to build a beat from. Just my two cents
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited 4:08AM
    I prefer a separate Midi track for each element as it is much easier to control the mixture when arranging the midi parts IMHO....
  • DeeJohnsonDeeJohnson
    edited 4:08AM
    "Gjcyrus&quot wrote:
    I usually find an actual live drum loop from a song I like or from past drum recordings that i played myself, stick that in as a loop, then start layering kicks and snares to complement the drum loop. Maybe the drum loop has a cool "feel" to it but lacks the oomph of a solid kick, so I'll stick in a fat kick, or maybe theres a pretty decent kick already there, then I'll look for a more subtle kick to blend in with the recorded kick. Purely electronic beats sound kinda boring to me now as most machines and apps can generate them in a heartbeat and actual live drum loops typically lack a fat kick to make my gut move so I like blending the two to get the best of both worlds. at minimum having some unique sample with some weird timing in it to build a beat from. Just my two cents
    I see your point but I would rather make my own drum loops versus using others.
  • DeeJohnsonDeeJohnson
    edited 4:08AM
    "Dave Magoo&quot wrote:
    I prefer a separate Midi track for each element as it is much easier to control the mixture when arranging the midi parts IMHO....
    I will try that.

    I honestly always have the drums in one track but I will try it the other way.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited 4:08AM
    It's whatever suits your work flow really...

    If you separate the elements you can mixdown each part and gain more control over each one in the final mix if you export them to Auria for example.
  • GjcyrusGjcyrus
    edited 4:08AM
    @DeeJohnson - I also play live drums so I also sample my own actual live drums, sometimes using a crappy mini tape recorder to add grittiness. When I use an actual song loop, I try to speed it up, slow it down, eq it, make it different from original. Not sure what style of music you do, but many of Dr Dre's best beats arent even his song ideas, Take California love, thats originally a Zapp song if I'm not mistaken. Hip hop was built on sampling. If you do any sort of electronica, say house, man thats from disco. The Bee gees from the 70's first did the tape drum loop i think. Drum and bass/jungle, Amen Break on 50 percent of all tracks. Industrial ala Nine inch nails, look up throbbing gristle or even depeche mode, theyd bang on metal plates which were also used as triggers. DJs use actual songs as their instruments so I've opened up myself to using other sounds wherever they come from. Peace
  • DeeJohnsonDeeJohnson
    edited 4:08AM
    "Gjcyrus&quot wrote:
    @DeeJohnson - I also play live drums so I also sample my own actual live drums, sometimes using a crappy mini tape recorder to add grittiness. When I use an actual song loop, I try to speed it up, slow it down, eq it, make it different from original. Not sure what style of music you do, but many of Dr Dre's best beats arent even his song ideas, Take California love, thats originally a Zapp song if I'm not mistaken. Hip hop was built on sampling. If you do any sort of electronica, say house, man thats from disco. The Bee gees from the 70's first did the tape drum loop i think. Drum and bass/jungle, Amen Break on 50 percent of all tracks. Industrial ala Nine inch nails, look up throbbing gristle or even depeche mode, theyd bang on metal plates which were also used as triggers. DJs use actual songs as their instruments so I've opened up myself to using other sounds wherever they come from. Peace
    Yeah man. That's why I said I understood. I ideally want to be able to make some Hip Hop stuff, some neo soul rnb stuff, as well as some experimental stuff. But at the same time I want to try to create my own original stuff too. If I could play a real acoustic drum kit, I would sample myself playing too. But I can not, but I do have tons of great drum samples. So I would much rather use those for the time being. As of late I have been trying to create a project called Electric-City(A play on the word electricity) and pretty much Im trying to make it experimental but at the same try to mix some hip-hop in there too. I have a long way to go, but my idea for the project is to not sample at all and to well experiment with the sounds I have. But I see what your saying and I definitely plan on sampling drum breaks too at one point, just not now.
  • DeeJohnsonDeeJohnson
    edited 4:08AM
    "Dave Magoo&quot wrote:
    It's whatever suits your work flow really...

    If you separate the elements you can mixdown each part and gain more control over each one in the final mix if you export them to Auria for example.
    That's the plan man.

    I haven't really used auria yet because it's look too hardware like and im scared lol.

    But on a serious note I will try it out soon and that is what I plan on doing. So I guess tracking everything out sepreately will be the best way too go.
  • GjcyrusGjcyrus
    edited 4:08AM
    @DeeJohnson - Check out DrumAGog for Auria. If you got a tight beat down, you can automatically switch samples out and replace them with other drum samples. I'm sure you can do this with BM2 but when you do start playing a kit (or even your hands on a table), you can swap out the sounds with samples. FYI - I'm 99 percent sure you can rock it on a kit. I've played with some cats who have practiced playing drums for years and they aight. But some other dudes pick up some sticks and in like 5-10 min, they get possessed by the spirit and start rocking it like they've played for years. Like bruce lee said, dont think, feel....
  • DeeJohnsonDeeJohnson
    edited June 2013
    DrumAGog?

    Nice I will look into it man.

    Thanks for your suggestion.
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