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Kudos and feature requests

ToneeTonee
edited July 2008 in General
Greet app, well done!

I "tried" Beatmaker for a moment and lost one hour of worktime, thanks for that <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) -->
No crashes during that time like on other apps.

In future updates i would like to be able to record my own samples by using the iPhone microphone (pads section).
Also would be nice to swipe from one pattern-arrange window to the next or previous one (sequenzer section).

Greetings from Germany
Tonee
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  • unrecordingsunrecordings
    edited 3:35AM
    superb bit of software - would love a PDF of the manual, and of course can't wait for BeatPack
    it would be interesting if BeatPack could convert midi files - but i guess that's a tall order
    cheers paul (sheffield)
  • GarySGaryS
    edited 3:35AM
    I'm really enjoying playing with Beatmaker. The interface is very well thought out and much more powerful than I thought it would be when I bought it. This is an amazing little music production tool!

    REQ:
    I'd like to see choke groups added to the pads in a future update and well as different trigger modes such as a re-trigger (which is does now), gate (mute) and play though (pause play).


    Thanks for this great app!


    Best,

    GaryS
  • beatztombeatztom
    edited 3:35AM
    indeed a very nice application, with a super UI. will definitely be using this one !
  • carmotcarmot
    edited 3:35AM
    Another feature request:

    It would be nice in the pads view to display the full filenames (use a second and third line, there seems to be enough space) and not truncate them with ...
  • simulasimula
    edited 3:35AM
    Excellent mobile app! Although the iPhone has always been more than just a phone, especially with the SDK being released, BeatMaker has just upped the ante and turned it into an awesome portable music machine. Nice work. Well worth the price.

    I'm sure we'll see much more goodness to come but my first request would be a well-documented user manual. Looking forward to the Beatpack.
  • spartaneyespartaneye
    edited 3:35AM
    i just wanted to thank the intua team for their work on this! i've been looking for a good tracking solution on os x (without dropping big cash for reason or the like) since I switched from a pc 4 years ago, and this is the best thing yet, since i can now work on beats at work (heh) and on the go. thanks guys! can't wait for beatpack!
  • unrecordingsunrecordings
    edited 3:35AM
    actually - following from what spartaneye says - the ability to export midi sequencer information would be really really cool too - giving Beatmaker serious pre-production capabilities
  • nobbystylusnobbystylus
    edited 3:35AM
    Its great so far, excellent work!

    Couple of feature requests.
    1 - Loops for sounds - (this would enable using tiny waveforms)
    2 - ADSR Envelopes for sounds
    3 - TimeStretch
    4 - Filter for individual hits (as opposed to on a global effect)
    5 - on top of velocity and swing in the step sequencer, pitch would be really handy - this would enable bassline programming and more!

    Thanks a lot though - the best iPhone app by far!
  • BrentMurrellBrentMurrell
    edited 3:35AM
    the ability to control the panning in the step sequencer would be helpful
    also, the ability to preview sounds in a kit before loading it up
  • GarySGaryS
    edited 3:35AM
    I'd like to second the request for ADSRs, and throw in another props for the graphic designer of Beatmaker. It really is a beautiful program.

    Best,

    GaryS
  • G LampaG Lampa
    edited 3:35AM
    Nobby,

    #'s 1 and 5 on your list are implemented already.

    Keep digging! You'll find them!

    __________________________

    #1: Plenty or the assignable samples are longer, loop-style sounds..... certainly long enough to plow through one bar, and fold around to the beginning.

    #5: Under PAD > EDIT > TUNING, you'll see the pitch slider, along w/ a scale adjustment and semi-tones.

    Enjoy!
  • MachinesMachines
    edited 3:35AM
    In addition to ADSR, it would be cool to see a simple synth make its way to the program. Nothing too terribly fancy, just something to make it easy to plunk out some melodies to complement the easy beat making capabilities.
  • unrecordingsunrecordings
    edited 3:35AM
    actually i think the pitch slider on the pads could do with a zero return - after spending ages mucking around with the man parrish vocal samples last night, it took a bit of work to get the pitch back to zero
  • G LampaG Lampa
    edited 3:35AM
    "unrecordings&quot wrote:
    actually i think the pitch slider on the pads could do with a zero return - after spending ages mucking around with the man parrish vocal samples last night, it took a bit of work to get the pitch back to zero

    Very good point.

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  • c3ptikc3ptik
    edited 3:35AM
    Unbelievable piece of software. Great work.

    My request:
    To be able to pull in and play different sounds from different kits or 'chop and choose' your own kit to enable a full range of different effects/hits throughout a song. I understand doing this would eat up a lot of memory but there must be a way...unless its already there and i simply haven't woken up yet.

    This is going to be big, i can tell!
    Nice work!!
  • unrecordingsunrecordings
    edited 3:35AM
    yep - i think you can create customs kits - in the pad section, hit a pad, go to edit then you'll see load sample - not worked out the difference between this and 'chop' yet though.....

    and of course on that page is graphical edit - which does that in real time, while a sample is looping in the sequencer (!)
  • djshydjshy
    edited 3:35AM
    first things first....this is probably the best iphone app so far...and worth the money...

    I do agree for the most part of the feature requests....

    I'd like to also add and see.. quantizing/timing correct options... like 1/8...1/4...1/16...etc... for example...when I try to layer fast hi-hats..and when i have quantize on...it only conforms to 1 setting...

    Also I noticed...maybe its an iphone interface issue..but I get alot of double sounds when tapping the pads once...I also get missed taps when tapping the pads fast...

    but as i play more and more with it...i love it!!..great app!!!
  • technog0dtechnog0d
    edited 3:35AM
    Great App! One feature i would like it the ability to use more then one bar loops. Perhaps on the pattern sequencer page, you can drag the screen left to get to the next bar. Again... This is a great app for when i am on the road. I am really enjoying it. A lot more portable and convenient then my Ternori-on.

    Mike
  • matemate
    edited 3:35AM
    @Nobby, @intua

    I agree to Nobby - being able to adjust pitch FROM THE SEQUENCER would be superawesome!

    Other than that - awesome app, totally blown away, it's by far the best app for the iPhone! If I wouldn't own one yet I would buy it just for that app!

    Thanks!

    ::peace.mate::
  • nobbystylusnobbystylus
    edited 3:35AM
    "G Lampa&quot wrote:
    Nobby,

    #'s 1 and 5 on your list are implemented already.

    Keep digging! You'll find them!

    __________________________

    #1: Plenty or the assignable samples are longer, loop-style sounds..... certainly long enough to plow through one bar, and fold around to the beginning.

    #5: Under PAD > EDIT > TUNING, you'll see the pitch slider, along w/ a scale adjustment and semi-tones.

    Enjoy!

    I can't see how to turn loops on and off though? Its not possible to set up proper looping of sounds (select a small section of the sound and set it to loop) with ADSR envelopes to control how the sound works over time.

    Also yes Tuning exists in PADS but not in STEP Sequencer mode. In other words PITCH IS ALWAYS FIXED, but with pitch in the sequencer you could make melodies from individual hits!! Combine this with looped SAW Waves, or SINE WAVEs and you've got a mini synth!
  • unrecordingsunrecordings
    edited 3:35AM
    and here's an idea:
    there's not enough tracks in the sequencer to get a good rhythm section going, AND muck around with riffs - which i totally understand, i'm guessing we're getting close to the hardware limitations with this - but - and i've yet to try this - can you put a few rhythms together, some alternates & breakdowns - export these as audio files then re-import these loops onto your pad section, leaving a heap of pads free for setting up the bass lines, and on and on - almost like overdubs the old fashioned way

    i'm trying it right now.....
  • unrecordingsunrecordings
    edited 3:35AM
    ...yep - that works
  • matemate
    edited 3:35AM
    Sweet!

    So you could do the same thing for a melody - You would 'just' have to prepare a Kit where you manually tune the same sample to 16 different notes, sequence the melody and then overdub that.

    A little tedious but would work.

    ::peace.mate::
  • G LampaG Lampa
    edited 3:35AM
    "unrecordings&quot wrote:
    and here's an idea:
    there's not enough tracks in the sequencer to get a good rhythm section going, AND muck around with riffs - which i totally understand, i'm guessing we're getting close to the hardware limitations with this - but - and i've yet to try this - can you put a few rhythms together, some alternates & breakdowns - export these as audio files then re-import these loops onto your pad section, leaving a heap of pads free for setting up the bass lines, and on and on - almost like overdubs the old fashioned way

    i'm trying it right now.....

    Wait... how are you exporting? Playing back w/ line out? Or is the BeatPack available?

    Tell Tell!!!

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  • unrecordingsunrecordings
    edited 3:35AM
    exporting within BM itself - think about it - right now you can export a song - that is to say render it as an audio file, but there is no way (yet) to get that file off the iphone - so the only worry was making sure that what you rendered could be reimported as a loop - which it can...
  • c3ptikc3ptik
    edited 3:35AM
    Now that BeatPack is here its getting even better!

    Can anyone recommend a few sites for wav samples and loops?

    Thanks in advance
  • carmotcarmot
    edited 3:35AM
    <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://ccmixter.org/">http://ccmixter.org/</a><!-- m -->
    loops under the creative commons license

    <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.acidplanet.com/">http://www.acidplanet.com/</a><!-- m -->
    Remix material, some good stuff in the past (loops from Lenny Kravitz, Madonna, B-52s as part of a remix contest. Those loops are not available anymore but the loops for the current contests are available.)

    <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.freeloops.com/">http://www.freeloops.com/</a><!-- m -->
    as the name says...
  • zackzack
    edited 3:35AM
    I think we all need to be realistic about few things here...this app have already surpassed all my expectations,..we're talking about something which we paid 20 bucks so don't be hypergreedy and expect Yamaha motiff like stuff. There are few little things to be implemented in future versions so If Intua team manage to upgrade sequencer 2 or 4 bar instead of 1 bar rec. ..add some irregular measures 3/4 or something like that...they will probably win an award.
  • RegekRegek
    edited 3:35AM
    It would be nice to hear from the developers what the limitations of the hardware seem to be at this time. For example, it could be that live polyphonic pitchbending is simply beyond the capabilities of the iPhone's audio hardware and APIs. Setting aside the SDK licensing issues, the phone may not be able to run advanced AUs or VSTs, even if they were recompiled.

    All that said, where I would like to see this app go is in a direction similar to Ableton Live's Drum Rack. Essentially, it is a drum machine with a huge number of slots. Each slot can hold anything from a sample up to an entire effect chain. This allows for a huge amount of configurability. For example, if you want varying degrees of bitcrushing for certain sounds, you apply it only to them. The output of the drum rack can then be put through its own "master" effect chain which becomes the final output of the instrument. If has enough slots that you can use it to play multisampled instruments and the like.

    Yes, I realize that the hardware we're talking about has limitations. The overwhelming majority of what I talk about above could be done by limiting the number of slots and "freezing" the drum kit into a new set of temporary samples. Keep the original samples and the settings for the kit in flash, then feed the new samples to a simple drum machine. A little time spent preparing the drum kit before allowing play would probably let that work.

    Anyway, time for me to sleep. I may elaborate on this and other feature requests later.
  • _Zippy__Zippy_
    edited 3:35AM
    Hi from an enthusiastic newbie...
    I'd love a step sequencer similar to the 808 and TB303 - with sound banks to match! That way I wouldn't have to trust my lousy timing!
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