If boring is what you perceive then its boring work you will get. the turn table was quite boring as a musical instrument till someone invented scratching.
You got be joking right??? If thats what you think then BM is definitely not for you. Maybe not even digital music. Maybe you should stick to analog instruments then care about what a ios (that was created around sampled music) app does .
Have you ever heard of RJD2, MADLIB, JDILLA, DJ SHADOW, GASLAMP.... ETC. No too boring....smh
and the truth is what G lamp said "The end product is the ONLY consideration"
For deeper (kinda) sound design, NanoStudio is still the way to go for me on iOS. Decent synth, decent (if not top-notch, but certainly better than BM2's) effects, all tightly integrated and extremely optimized. For example, the last 4 NaturalBornChiller productions have been made in NanoStudio, except the final mastering step...
To rail against a mobile app with long-winded proselytizing is corny as hell. It's like Michel Guérard whining about the limitations of a Slap-Chop. Tools are secondary, and I know guys that are virtuosic on any traditional instrument that write the wackest music you've ever heard. Your point is heard, considered, rejected and dismissed, Brain. Have a look around.
It's working creatively WITHIN the constraints of a medium that spawns innovation. You'd never get "Tomorrow Never Knows" with today's high-end software. It took pioneering vision and elbow grease to get there.
To each is own, fact is BM is a sampling based music program, And does a great job at it. if i wanted to write my own music just to sample, that would defeat the purpose of the genre. and the art form i prefer.
Sampling and the manipulating of sound IS a art form just like Collage is a fine art. If you can't understand that, Sorry.
Also, "looking for the next recording to jack" assumes everyone has the same wherewithal, in terms of what to look for in the crates. I assure you that you're not entertaining the same stuff. Also, when I chop up a groove, I often use it just to segment out the hits, pretty much just developing my own kit samples. I can tell you that you won't be able to identify the source material, once I'm done with it. In that way, I rock it like Stockhausen; steady concrete.
I appreciate the tip about that plug-in, tho. Thanks.
It's the distinction between craft and art. "Sophisticated" does NOT equal better. You might say ELP is more sophisticated than the Misfits, but it means nothing to me. ELP is all academia and ZERO flair. The most complex compositions can easily be stale as a 7-11 scone, whilst a simple droning ambient Eno piece can take you away. In that way, I consider Brian Eno (the consummate "non-musician") to be a much greater artist than Keith Emerson.
@alien-brain - hey man, i only just read this whole thread and saw your post with the vengeance sampler. That shit is pretty sick man. Thanks for posting it! I'm actually pretty old school as I come from analog tape/live guitar/live drums/MPC and only software I really appreciate is Ableton and it's only cuz i got near broke that i discovered the world of ios music (BM is $20 pocket mpc). So forgive me if my question to you is newbie-ish as I wanna learn. I dig what you said about "formula" sorta speak even though I try to stay loose and not follow any even though subconciously. i might.
How does Vengance compare to Ableton? Can you use that software within Ableton? If it does, how would you integrate it into Ableton if you wanted to make a hip hop beat, dubstep beat, house song? How does it compare to that free software you mentioned short circuit?
What specific features would you want BM to integrate if you could choose only two or three and why?
ok so i just tried watching all the vids you posted (but found it hard to pay attention to the short circuit ones) and the main gist i'm getting is these software programs just make it easier to express what you want to do. Like you could do a lot of this shit in say fruity loops, you could use several ios apps to mangle the sound to come up with wobbly basses and alter the eqs but it would just be a pain in the ass to put it together with workaround after workaround. Am i correct in that? Is this the value these programs have? But then back to my first question is what is difference between say vegeance and ableton? I thought ableton could pretty much do all this shit already?
Yes, we will be creating and making stuff, trying to be as creative as we can with the tools we have. While you just go on tryn to search for something that don't exist.
Obvious ISO isn't ready for you yet, so instead of banging your head about what you can't do. Just go bang some sophisticated shit out on your PC
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You got be joking right??? If thats what you think then BM is definitely not for you. Maybe not even digital music. Maybe you should stick to analog instruments then care about what a ios (that was created around sampled music) app does .
Have you ever heard of RJD2, MADLIB, JDILLA, DJ SHADOW, GASLAMP.... ETC.
No too boring....smh
and the truth is what G lamp said "The end product is the ONLY consideration"
if i wanted to write my own music just to sample, that would defeat the purpose of the genre.
and the art form i prefer.
Sampling and the manipulating of sound IS a art form just like Collage is a fine art. If you can't understand that, Sorry.
A piece composed by Bach is more sophisticated then a piece by Dilla. Nah.
Also, "looking for the next recording to jack" assumes everyone has the same wherewithal, in terms of what to look for in the crates. I assure you that you're not entertaining the same stuff. Also, when I chop up a groove, I often use it just to segment out the hits, pretty much just developing my own kit samples. I can tell you that you won't be able to identify the source material, once I'm done with it. In that way, I rock it like Stockhausen; steady concrete.
I appreciate the tip about that plug-in, tho. Thanks.
Finding fault with how music is composed is just foolish and futile.
How does Vengance compare to Ableton? Can you use that software within Ableton? If it does, how would you integrate it into Ableton if you wanted to make a hip hop beat, dubstep beat, house song? How does it compare to that free software you mentioned short circuit?
What specific features would you want BM to integrate if you could choose only two or three and why?
Thanks in advance
http://www.musictech.net/2013/08/phalanx-review/
Anybody here have experience with Kontact?
Yes, we will be creating and making stuff, trying to be as creative as we can with the tools we have. While you just go on tryn to search for something that don't exist.
Obvious ISO isn't ready for you yet, so instead of banging your head about what you can't do. Just go bang some sophisticated shit out on your PC