Midi Designer and Beatsurfing Triggering loops

decrepitude

Hello BM2r's

I am glad to report I have both Midi Designer Pro and Beatsurfing successfully controlling Beatmaker 2 on my iPad 3. It' so awesome to set up your own midi control scheme for apps inside the iPad!

Hopefully by now you know, you can toggle timed playback of loops in the drum sampler. You need to set up the loop to playback using the 'loop and hold' setting, and set the number of bars. Triggering the pad with it's correct midi note will start the loop according to the record quantize interval (one bar usually) and the loop will stop (also quantized) when the midi note is sent to the pad again. This is a great way to trigger loops in time, in similar fashion to Ableton live.

Now I'm trying to do this with a midi control program on the iPad. The Beatsurfing application does it perfectly. However, I'm running into some issues with triggering loops using Midi Designer. For some reason the note-on messages dont behave the same way as Beatsurfing.

When I do this with the Beatsurfing application and send the midi note, it works as expected. I tap the pad assigned to the correct note (c1) and it starts playing back. Then, I tap the pad again to send the note again and the loop stops as expected (and quantized).

However, when I set up a midi note-on message in Midi Designer, the behavior is not the same in BM2. I've tried everything - drumpad, momentary, note on/off, note-on/note-on but I cant seem to replicate the (correct) behavior that I'm experiencing in Beatsurfing.

Intua, can you explain what specifically needs to happen with midi note messages when triggering loops in the drum sampler?

Thanks!
-Mark

decrepitude

Well, if anybody is interested I figured out the solution. Make sure to use these settings in MD pro:

Properties-
Type: drumpad or 'momentary'
Midi-
Min-max: 0-127
Default value: 0
Send On Only: ON

I hope this helps anyone who might be beating their head figuring out why loops wont trigger as expected. This is going to be awesome!

dubhausdisco

Thanks for the info! I downloaded beatsurfing back when it was on sale but never messed with it too much. Last night we got down and dirty! <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->

Wormhelmet

I'm using TB Midi Stuff for iPad controller when I don't hook up my padKontrol. Has built in virtual midi routing, you can design your own surfaces or use the default ones that are a one finger switch at the top of the screen which give you a drum pad controller that's velocity sensitive and 16 pads plus bank switching and you can custom figure banks for it, a robust mixer with long faders and pan controls 16 across, a keyboard with arpeggiator and 4 top panels you can flip through giving you assignable knobs, ribbon controller, after touch, pitch bend and mod wheel, etc. very easy to setup once you assign stuff in the app and on host app.

Wormhelmet

Incidentally, the original post got me to experimenting with live play and quantize settings in the record section. I previously had everything quantized to 1/16 on all my stuff and triggering loops was a little tight on getting the timing perfect. I changed the quantize in record to 1/4 and now live play is timed on auto loop triggers too, so I can be a little sloppy on hitting the pad and it times up live perfectly. Just like clip behavior in Ableton. Sweeeet.

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dubhausdisco

You should repost this in the feature request thread(s)... The folks asking for ableton style production just haven't dove into the software enough.
Same with the stereo delay requests- simply create 2 delays, pan one left and one right, and change the timing slightly to taste, and there you go. There are a lot of "hidden" potentials in bm2!!! <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->