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No you don't.
I can use molten, ims29, crystal, Nano, etc; with Cubase or Live in perfect sync.
I Can NOT implement BM2 into my existing setup.
As I said before - Bm2 is a toy, I'm afraid...
Don't use it then, stick to what you like, no one is forcing you to use it!
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ToLTeK wrote:
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... for iPad...
And?
iSequence for iPad offers:
1.CoreMidi
2.Automation for almost everything
3.Does not crash
4.iPad compatibility
5.fx AUX routing
6.can create/compose from existing presets
7.Most advanced iPad Music app today
8.shit sequencer
9.did I mentioned iPad?
1. I am sure core midi is coming to bm2 as is the Hd version for iPad.
2. I have automated in bm2 contently
3. Beat maker 2 is a crash happy app, but it is doing quite a lot in comparison to nano
4. Answered in 1.
5. They have noted the bussing SFX issue and will probably redo it.
6. Not sure what you mean here...
7. I love Isequence, but no, its not the most advanced app to date.
8. Yes the latency and the sequencer are the low points of Isequence.
9. Yes you mentioned iPad.
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A tiny mpc like device in my pocket is an enormous awesome thing to me!
I have purchased nano studio, beat maker, beat maker 2, and sequence, and xenon, as well as thumb jam
They are all good apps! And the variety is a good thing!
Xenon has the best synth engine!
Nano studio has the best sampler keyboard instrument!
ISequence has the best mixer!
Thumb jam has the most realistic playback feel.
But beat maker 2 is a chopshop deluxe.
If I had to give beat maker 5 stars:
1. Fix the crashing!
2. Add crossfading to keyboard sampler.
3. Resampling
4. The effects are blahhhhhhhhh...
The reverb needs a type setting IE room, plate, hall etc., the delay needs a filter, the filter is not very resonant nor is it steep...it could also use( hp, lp24, lp48, comb, notch, ladder), the bit crusher is okay, the compressor is very touchy, I would tell the folks at intua to look at logic's effects and get some ideas especially the bit crusher and eq.
5. Bussing needs reworked.
6. Export to something the phone can find if not the iTunes library.
7. Core midi so I can hook up my padkontrol....
Other than that nothing is really killing me on bm2...I definitely don't feel robbed or ripped off at 20 bucks
I love that all these app designers are paving the way to doing music better on a mobile device
did they already updated it?, cause on my itunes when i click the information of my BM2 it had written i have a version 1.0, and then i had search the BM2 in the app store and they have a 2.0 ?? what is this is it an update or what? please give me a fast feedback ty in advance!
p.s. when i even click my new updates i cant see the BM2 update there, but even on the app store, it dosent have anything written about the update, but as you can see of the left it said 2.0, but my actual BM2 is only 1.0 ??? but yet im still downloading the new BM2, just in case its an update, i had clicked the BUY button but its free though cause i had already purchase the app no worries... im just waiting for it to dled and intall, ill post a news laters.
Hey BM2 is version 2.0, BM1 being version 1.0. Since BM2 is acutally a whole new program, its version 1.0 of version 2.0. Doesn't make much sense, but I think that's whats going on there.
Had to post regarding the comments about BM2 being a toy...
That's ridiculous...
As of right now I have almost half of a new album completed with some hip hop legends (who were blown away when they saw how I made these tracks with my phone), and it will blow away a ton of other over produced hip hop albums even as it stands right now...
When I started making beats 16 years ago, The equipment was a joke compared to BM2...
Maybe some peeps rely on too much stuff to create... try simplifying your setup.
But then again, No one does stuff the exact same way...
Had to post regarding the comments about BM2 being a toy...
That's ridiculous...
As of right now I have almost half of a new album completed with some hip hop legends (who were blown away when they saw how I made these tracks with my phone), and it will blow away a ton of other over produced hip hop albums even as it stands right now...
When I started making beats 16 years ago, The equipment was a joke compared to BM2...
Maybe some peeps rely on too much stuff to create... try simplifying your setup.
But then again, No one does stuff the exact same way...
Just learn to ignore those ignorant condescending comments. It certainly is not a toy, you actually require some sort of knowledge in electronic music making to pick this thing up. If these critics wanted to sound like they actually knew something and had a valid opinion you might say something like "It's not a "pro" app if it doesn't have midi". I would disagree with that as well because chop shop is the most advanced "pro" feature out of any app in my opinion. The fact the Intua managed to pull it off with such limited cpu power in a phone is incredible. By far the most advanced music app function. But ya Dj Shag just ignore the dorks and let them post all day while the cool people make music. Ooops how did I get back on here again?.......
It depends on what you do as a professional. I make a living producing, mixing and mastering. Production wise I've had some fairly complex projects lately (80 to 150 tracks worth of stuff). Trying to convince me that I could create/finish something of this complexity, that I can sell to my clients, only using Beatmaker 2 is rather ridiculous. I can't. In that regard it is a "toy" or a "curiosity". Would I compose film scores using BM2? Possibly rough out some ideas but that's pretty much it.. heck, I rather write the score with pen and paper (yeah, some of us still know how to do that shit <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> ).
However, having said that, it is perfectly possible to create a top 10 chart hit with BM2. You just need the right samples, the right idea and a helluva lot of luck (true for any production). The mixing and adding of elements can be done later in a proper DAW. That doesn't mean that the start of the production, the idea, the very seed of the tune, would be any less important. Thus it can be said that BM2 could be used for professional production use.
It's all a matter of perspective. A toy? Yes it is and no, it is not.
It depends on what you do as a professional. I make a living producing, mixing and mastering. Production wise I've had some fairly complex projects lately (80 to 150 tracks worth of stuff). Trying to convince me that I could create/finish something of this complexity, that I can sell to my clients, only using Beatmaker 2 is rather ridiculous. I can't. In that regard it is a "toy" or a "curiosity". Would I compose film scores using BM2? Possibly rough out some ideas but that's pretty much it.. heck, I rather write the score with pen and paper (yeah, some of us still know how to do that s**t <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> ).
However, having said that, it is perfectly possible to create a top 10 chart hit with BM2. You just need the right samples, the right idea and a helluva lot of luck (true for any production). The mixing and adding of elements can be done later in a proper DAW. That doesn't mean that the start of the production, the idea, the very seed of the tune, would be any less important. Thus it can be said that BM2 could be used for professional production use.
It's all a matter of perspective. A toy? Yes it is and no, it is not.
I too do mix and master etc for money. Comparing BM to say Pro Tools is like comparing an mpc to a console and tape machine. Apples and Oranges. BM has pro features in terms of Mpc style sample workstations. Plus last time I checked toys are good, i like playing with toys they are fun! Beatmaker 2 is fun so I guess we can call it a toy, just not in a condescending manner.
Made a video of me playing with my toy! Beatmaker 2->Biscuit->Sp-303(Vinyl Sim). Kinda tried some dubstep type thing.
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It depends on what you do as a professional. I make a living producing, mixing and mastering. Production wise I've had some fairly complex projects lately (80 to 150 tracks worth of stuff). Trying to convince me that I could create/finish something of this complexity, that I can sell to my clients, only using Beatmaker 2 is rather ridiculous. I can't. In that regard it is a "toy" or a "curiosity". Would I compose film scores using BM2? Possibly rough out some ideas but that's pretty much it.. heck, I rather write the score with pen and paper (yeah, some of us still know how to do that s**t <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> ).
However, having said that, it is perfectly possible to create a top 10 chart hit with BM2. You just need the right samples, the right idea and a helluva lot of luck (true for any production). The mixing and adding of elements can be done later in a proper DAW. That doesn't mean that the start of the production, the idea, the very seed of the tune, would be any less important. Thus it can be said that BM2 could be used for professional production use.
It's all a matter of perspective. A toy? Yes it is and no, it is not.
The question is wrong-headed, because the real innovators use toys / garbage / household items and even a side of beef (Scott Walker), along w/ a standard tape recorder to create their art, whilst guys w/ $100k+ worth of "professional" equipment proudly exhibit their latest rehash of mannerist tripe, aping the most conventional styles that the 21st century has to offer.
I'm not directing this at all professionals (present company), and it's great to make a living in that industry. But the relegation of any piece of sound-making soft / hardware as a "toy", only holds applicable in the industry sense, and is an empty affirmation in the artistic sense.
I don't have to tell you this. I'd rather hear a hiss-ridden recording of an innovative piece of music, recorded on a Dora The Explorer cassette recorder, than hear 90% of big studio gloss being generated by the "pros".
Sequencer in BM2 is a ripp-off from NanoStudio - the best iPhone app ever <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) -->
Then I got the best of both worlds! what an advantage, huh? <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) -->
No you don't.
I can use molten, ims29, crystal, Nano, etc; with Cubase or Live in perfect sync.
I Can NOT implement BM2 into my existing setup.
As I said before - Bm2 is a toy, I'm afraid...
How do you use nano studio in sync with a DAW? sorry for posting here!! maybe the same method can be applied to BM2?
It depends on what you do as a professional. I make a living producing, mixing and mastering. Production wise I've had some fairly complex projects lately (80 to 150 tracks worth of stuff). Trying to convince me that I could create/finish something of this complexity, that I can sell to my clients, only using Beatmaker 2 is rather ridiculous. I can't. In that regard it is a "toy" or a "curiosity". Would I compose film scores using BM2? Possibly rough out some ideas but that's pretty much it.. heck, I rather write the score with pen and paper (yeah, some of us still know how to do that s**t <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> ).
However, having said that, it is perfectly possible to create a top 10 chart hit with BM2. You just need the right samples, the right idea and a helluva lot of luck (true for any production). The mixing and adding of elements can be done later in a proper DAW. That doesn't mean that the start of the production, the idea, the very seed of the tune, would be any less important. Thus it can be said that BM2 could be used for professional production use.
It's all a matter of perspective. A toy? Yes it is and no, it is not.
The question is wrong-headed, because the real innovators use toys / garbage / household items and even a side of beef (Scott Walker), along w/ a standard tape recorder to create their art, whilst guys w/ $100k+ worth of "professional" equipment proudly exhibit their latest rehash of mannerist tripe, aping the most conventional styles that the 21st century has to offer.
I'm not directing this at all professionals (present company), and it's great to make a living in that industry. But the relegation of any piece of sound-making soft / hardware as a "toy", only holds applicable in the industry sense, and is an empty affirmation in the artistic sense.
I don't have to tell you this. I'd rather hear a hiss-ridden recording of an innovative piece of music, recorded on a Dora The Explorer cassette recorder, than hear 90% of big studio gloss being generated by the "pros".
It depends on what you do as a professional. I make a living producing, mixing and mastering. Production wise I've had some fairly complex projects lately (80 to 150 tracks worth of stuff). Trying to convince me that I could create/finish something of this complexity, that I can sell to my clients, only using Beatmaker 2 is rather ridiculous. I can't. In that regard it is a "toy" or a "curiosity". Would I compose film scores using BM2? Possibly rough out some ideas but that's pretty much it.. heck, I rather write the score with pen and paper (yeah, some of us still know how to do that s**t <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> ).
However, having said that, it is perfectly possible to create a top 10 chart hit with BM2. You just need the right samples, the right idea and a helluva lot of luck (true for any production). The mixing and adding of elements can be done later in a proper DAW. That doesn't mean that the start of the production, the idea, the very seed of the tune, would be any less important. Thus it can be said that BM2 could be used for professional production use.
It's all a matter of perspective. A toy? Yes it is and no, it is not.
The question is wrong-headed, because the real innovators use toys / garbage / household items and even a side of beef (Scott Walker), along w/ a standard tape recorder to create their art, whilst guys w/ $100k+ worth of "professional" equipment proudly exhibit their latest rehash of mannerist tripe, aping the most conventional styles that the 21st century has to offer.
I'm not directing this at all professionals (present company), and it's great to make a living in that industry. But the relegation of any piece of sound-making soft / hardware as a "toy", only holds applicable in the industry sense, and is an empty affirmation in the artistic sense.
I don't have to tell you this. I'd rather hear a hiss-ridden recording of an innovative piece of music, recorded on a Dora The Explorer cassette recorder, than hear 90% of big studio gloss being generated by the "pros".
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Don't use it then, stick to what you like, no one is forcing you to use it!
1. I am sure core midi is coming to bm2 as is the Hd version for iPad.
2. I have automated in bm2 contently
3. Beat maker 2 is a crash happy app, but it is doing quite a lot in comparison to nano
4. Answered in 1.
5. They have noted the bussing SFX issue and will probably redo it.
6. Not sure what you mean here...
7. I love Isequence, but no, its not the most advanced app to date.
8. Yes the latency and the sequencer are the low points of Isequence.
9. Yes you mentioned iPad.
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A tiny mpc like device in my pocket is an enormous awesome thing to me!
I have purchased nano studio, beat maker, beat maker 2, and sequence, and xenon, as well as thumb jam
They are all good apps! And the variety is a good thing!
Xenon has the best synth engine!
Nano studio has the best sampler keyboard instrument!
ISequence has the best mixer!
Thumb jam has the most realistic playback feel.
But beat maker 2 is a chopshop deluxe.
If I had to give beat maker 5 stars:
1. Fix the crashing!
2. Add crossfading to keyboard sampler.
3. Resampling
4. The effects are blahhhhhhhhh...
The reverb needs a type setting IE room, plate, hall etc., the delay needs a filter, the filter is not very resonant nor is it steep...it could also use( hp, lp24, lp48, comb, notch, ladder), the bit crusher is okay, the compressor is very touchy, I would tell the folks at intua to look at logic's effects and get some ideas especially the bit crusher and eq.
5. Bussing needs reworked.
6. Export to something the phone can find if not the iTunes library.
7. Core midi so I can hook up my padkontrol....
Other than that nothing is really killing me on bm2...I definitely don't feel robbed or ripped off at 20 bucks
I love that all these app designers are paving the way to doing music better on a mobile device
p.s. when i even click my new updates i cant see the BM2 update there, but even on the app store, it dosent have anything written about the update, but as you can see of the left it said 2.0, but my actual BM2 is only 1.0 ??? but yet im still downloading the new BM2, just in case its an update, i had clicked the BUY button but its free though cause i had already purchase the app no worries... im just waiting for it to dled and intall, ill post a news laters.
That's ridiculous...
As of right now I have almost half of a new album completed with some hip hop legends (who were blown away when they saw how I made these tracks with my phone), and it will blow away a ton of other over produced hip hop albums even as it stands right now...
When I started making beats 16 years ago, The equipment was a joke compared to BM2...
Maybe some peeps rely on too much stuff to create... try simplifying your setup.
But then again, No one does stuff the exact same way...
If its not for you, its not for you.
#Justsayin
P!
Dj Shag...
Just learn to ignore those ignorant condescending comments. It certainly is not a toy, you actually require some sort of knowledge in electronic music making to pick this thing up. If these critics wanted to sound like they actually knew something and had a valid opinion you might say something like "It's not a "pro" app if it doesn't have midi". I would disagree with that as well because chop shop is the most advanced "pro" feature out of any app in my opinion. The fact the Intua managed to pull it off with such limited cpu power in a phone is incredible. By far the most advanced music app function. But ya Dj Shag just ignore the dorks and let them post all day while the cool people make music. Ooops how did I get back on here again?.......
However, having said that, it is perfectly possible to create a top 10 chart hit with BM2. You just need the right samples, the right idea and a helluva lot of luck (true for any production). The mixing and adding of elements can be done later in a proper DAW. That doesn't mean that the start of the production, the idea, the very seed of the tune, would be any less important. Thus it can be said that BM2 could be used for professional production use.
It's all a matter of perspective. A toy? Yes it is and no, it is not.
I too do mix and master etc for money. Comparing BM to say Pro Tools is like comparing an mpc to a console and tape machine. Apples and Oranges. BM has pro features in terms of Mpc style sample workstations. Plus last time I checked toys are good, i like playing with toys they are fun! Beatmaker 2 is fun so I guess we can call it a toy, just not in a condescending manner.
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The question is wrong-headed, because the real innovators use toys / garbage / household items and even a side of beef (Scott Walker), along w/ a standard tape recorder to create their art, whilst guys w/ $100k+ worth of "professional" equipment proudly exhibit their latest rehash of mannerist tripe, aping the most conventional styles that the 21st century has to offer.
I'm not directing this at all professionals (present company), and it's great to make a living in that industry. But the relegation of any piece of sound-making soft / hardware as a "toy", only holds applicable in the industry sense, and is an empty affirmation in the artistic sense.
I don't have to tell you this. I'd rather hear a hiss-ridden recording of an innovative piece of music, recorded on a Dora The Explorer cassette recorder, than hear 90% of big studio gloss being generated by the "pros".
How do you use nano studio in sync with a DAW? sorry for posting here!! maybe the same method can be applied to BM2?
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