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layering a sub kick sample at say 30 hz and another at 60hz

GjcyrusGjcyrus
edited May 2013 in Support
hello all,

Sorry if that has already been asked before but couldn't find answer in forum. how would you go about layering a sub kick at say 30hz with another kick sample at 60hz so to make into one new sample that I could play on one pad? Or if there was a way to hit one pad and it would also trigger another pad or sample as well?

On a diff note, while headphones obviously aren't the ideal choice for referencing a mix, can any of you guys recommend a nice pair of headphones to get some idea of the low end? I've only got my ear buds and a pair of Sony headphones which tend to sound bright to me and give more high end clarity but not so much on low end. That being said, if I have a pair of headphones that accentuate the low end too much, I might end up easing up too much on my kickstand bass so the mix ends up lacking oomph.

Thanks in advance

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  • dubhausdiscodubhausdisco
    edited 12:26PM
    What's up Gj-
    The ability to "link" pads, or have one pad trigger another is a very popular feature request, hopefully we will have it soon! The other part of your question is another feature request that we hope to see- resampling to another pad...
    Workaround-
    Create drum machine
    Load two samples you wish to combine
    Either draw or tap pads so the samples play once
    Switch to sequencer window
    Choose export (all tracks), and remember where you save it
    Reopen drum machine, load new combined sample onto a pad

    As far as headphones, I've used the Sony mdr-7506's for years
  • GjcyrusGjcyrus
    edited 12:26PM
    Thanks dubhaus!

    Much appreciated.

    I also have the same pair of headphones but thought there might be another pair that ppl use for referencing low kicks.

    thanks again!
  • zetagyzetagy
    edited May 2013
    The Denon AHD2000 is the best headphone set in the entire known universe.

    I was a total devotee of Sony MDR's over the years, until I learned something: They crossfeed.

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    Try to hard-pan, to listen to just the right or the left channel.
    Now listen to the opposite side, the side that should have no signal.
    Can anything be heard? If yes, then the headphones crossfeed.

    I didn't want my headphones adding any to my sounds, so I found the Denons.
    They are the best thing since sliced bread, I'm telling you these are the ones-!
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited 12:26PM
    Probably can be a good thing as it slightly improves the realism of the stereo field as when you listen through speakers you hear some in your other ear anyway.

    Personal preference I suppose.
  • GjcyrusGjcyrus
    edited 12:26PM
    @zetagy - hmmm... Interesting note. How would you say the Denons color the sound? Bass heavy? Bright sounding? Every bit of gear adds "something". Might not be a lot but there has to be something or they'd cost thousands. Thnx in advance
  • dubhausdiscodubhausdisco
    edited 12:26PM
    I don't think that the headphones have anything to do with "cross feed"...
    The article talks about circuitry to add "cross feed", which I think most budget headphone amps have anyway. It's called cross talk.
    Anyway, I would suspect that the Denons are severely colored, as they are hifi headphones
  • zetagyzetagy
    edited 12:26PM
    i may not be able to write the most detailed review in the world, but these Denons have the most detailed sound i've ever heard. I've tried severely colored sets, and detailed sets, and these stand out as producing some of the cleanest sounds.

    Anyway, have a look at reviews, they're much better than i can write...

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    <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://reviews.cnet.com/headphones/denon-ahd2000/4505-7877_7-32340590.html">http://reviews.cnet.com/headphones/deno ... 40590.html</a><!-- m -->

    <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.ebay.com/rvw/Denon-AH-D2000-Headband-Headphones-Black-/114540603?_pppn=v3&_dmpt=US_Headphones&_pcategid=112529&_pcatid=908&_trksid=p5360.c0.m2000055">http://www.ebay.com/rvw/Denon-AH-D2000- ... 0.m2000055</a><!-- m -->

    And try a pair on-! they're really great
  • zetagyzetagy
    edited 12:26PM
    I was thinking about the original question of this post, layering pad samples.
    I know it may not be just what you wanted, but you could set up layers on the keyboard instrument. It can trigger multiple samples per note, controlled by layer and zone.
    So in a way, it is possible even now. Hope this helps...
  • dubhausdiscodubhausdisco
    edited 12:26PM
    @zetagy
    That's a great tip!
  • thesavagethesavage
    edited 12:26PM
    Why not use two tracks? one for each kick?
  • GjcyrusGjcyrus
    edited 12:26PM
    @zetagy - thnx for the heads up on keyboard tip and headphones links

    @savage - i'd prefer to play it at same time to "feel" it. I guess i could feel it when trying ideas out, then once i've made up my mind, go back and just re-do the track with the 2nd kick. Although this doesn't sound fun to me and would be extra steps/buzzkill. I actually bought Auria specifically for DrumAGog to sort of do what you recommended, but that would be another workflow method.
  • zetagyzetagy
    I wrote up some quick steps here, hope this helps:

    http://intua.net/forums/discussion/comment/15487#Comment_15487
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